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Post by Hiei on March 3rd 2012, 8:41 am

Well he is one Shinobi who makes me wonder how come he is not in the league of Itachi at least .
At the age of 6 he became a Chunin and at 13 he became Jounin .
At the age of 13 He could easily perform 3 Chiddoris during Kakashi Gaiden while some elite Uchiha at the same age could perform only 2 which means Kakashi had some amazingly high Chakra when he was a kid ... after 15+ years he managed to use only 4 from 3 ?? How did the Genius of the generation stopped progressing .
Plus he got the sharingan from Obito ... He should have been somewhere near Itachi at least but he seems to be way out of his league .
No doubt Kakashi is a great Ninja famous and feared in the entire Shinobi Nation but I somehow feel he hasn't achieved 5 % of his actual potential when he was 13 ... I guess Obito's death really changed him and kind of fcked his progress ...

What do you all think ?

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Post by Zeiin on March 3rd 2012, 8:59 am

After his father/obito died you can say he started to slack off while Itachi was still improving. Then again this is what Itachi achieved: At age 7, he graduated from the Ninja Academy at the top of his class after only one year, mastered the Sharingan at age eight, passed the Chunin Exams at age 10, and became an ANBU Captain at age 13. Don't forget he also destroyed his entire clan with the help of Tobi.
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Post by ACE KyoUno on March 3rd 2012, 9:34 am

Well, being a bearer of Sharingan, perhaps, made him weaker.
We don't know all the features of implant eyes in Naruto world.

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Post by Sasuke Uchiha4576 on March 3rd 2012, 9:50 am

I believe Obito's death had something to do with it, but I'm not really sure.
Kakashi was never anywhere near Itachi's league. Even now we still don't know Itachi's full potential. I reckon Itachi could kill Kabuto no sweat, and then probaly knock Tobi's block off. Kakashi is probaly weakend badly when he uses the Sharingan, and due to this he never really had the stamina to keep becoming stronger?

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Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on March 3rd 2012, 9:58 am

i think kakashi has not mastered his sharingan yet..!!!! he always get strained after he uses it but in case of Itachi, he has mastered sharingan at 8..!!!
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Post by Phoenix on March 3rd 2012, 1:28 pm

He already got wrecked by Itachi with a single genjutsu... Itachi didn't even have to build up to it. He did just as bad as Deidara did, actually.

Without Uchiha blood, his Sharingan can at most only be used to improve his perception of a battle. Using his mangekyo usually does more harm than good to him. His times to shine are always when he doesn't rely on the sharingan, such as when he fought of Hidan and Kakuzu at the same time.
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Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on March 3rd 2012, 1:59 pm

that's what am saying..!! evn Sasuke is more stronger dan him now..!!
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Post by Hiei on March 3rd 2012, 2:20 pm

ACE KyoUno XIII wrote:Well, being a bearer of Sharingan, perhaps, made him weaker.
We don't know all the features of implant eyes in Naruto world.

Well he is a non Uchiha and a sharingan might weaken non Uchiha blood , this can be a reason ... So , far I can think of Sharingan doesn't erfectly blend in his body rather shows many side effects as he is not an Uchiha .

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Post by its confirmed again on March 3rd 2012, 2:30 pm

















he relies too much on the sharingan. just like the uchihas
i dont like that
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Post by Zeiin on March 3rd 2012, 3:25 pm

Well without the Sharingan then he couldn't become a copy ninja and he wouldn't have mastered Chidori which was renamed to Raikiri. All of him moves relies on the Sharingan. As said before, he is no were near Itachi's level or infact Akatsuki level. Not to mention that he died multiple of times but then comes back alive.
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Post by Hiei on March 3rd 2012, 4:30 pm

No where near Akatsuki level ?
Shikamaru defeated Hidan and Kakashi > Shikamaru .
Plus against Kakuzu Kakashi had not yet used Kamui . Later when Sakura asked howcome you were not in the bed for a week this time . To which he replied as Naruto showed up he didn't have to use Kamui however if Naruto hadn't showed up he was going to finish things up with Kamui .

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Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on March 3rd 2012, 6:12 pm

@Wiza i think ankit is correct n u r underestimating kakashi very much..!!! kakashi can defeat deidara, sasori, etc..!! he evn fought with tendo pein 1-1..!! and didnt use kamui in battle but used to save chouji..!!! n when did kakashi die except in dat pein battle??
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Post by Hiei on March 3rd 2012, 6:21 pm

Yup Kakashi can beat likes of Deidara and even Kisame , Pein and Itachi will be out of his league though .

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Post by Phoenix on March 3rd 2012, 7:51 pm

I don't think Kakashi can handle Kisame. Here's my reasoning, Kakashi has won his battles by either outclassing, or outlasting his opponents. Kisame is in a league where he could not be outclassed by Kakashi's current level, and he has so much chakra that he can rival the tailed beasts. Lets not forget he fought Gai without his sword, which doubles.. even triples his fighting ability. Yeah, I'm a water-nin fanboy but I really think Kakashi is not quite there yet. If he were to fight Kisame on the same terms as Gai, then we'd have a real discussion.
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Post by Hiei on March 3rd 2012, 7:56 pm

Its not debatable and now since Kisame is DEAD , Kakashi is still alive and young and so he'll ofc get better so we can't really say who could have won anyways ...
I dunno wut happened instead of choosing Jinchuriki of Kyubi/Madara/Itachi/Sasuke I choosed Kakashi Hatake as my rank lol thats why I was wondering about him .

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Post by Guest on March 3rd 2012, 8:33 pm

Nope. Pretty sure kaka reached his peak by now, one of the reasons why itachi and many others surpassed him is because he's been slacking off too much since he retired from being in Anbu, and becoming a teacher after failing so many teams before team 7.


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Post by ACE KyoUno on March 3rd 2012, 9:35 pm

He has only one eye to watch. So, don't go seriously on him. awesome

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Post by Hiei on March 4th 2012, 6:00 am

Well against Itachi even the likes of Orochimaru shit their pants .
I guess Itachi is actually the best Ninja of Naruto generation .

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Post by Phoenix on March 4th 2012, 6:04 am

Ankit, when you switch fanboy-ism to another character are we going to see another once of these topics? <.<.. If so can you just rename this one so we can keep it all compressed?
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Post by Hiei on March 4th 2012, 6:11 am

So . lets convert it to fan-boyism thread ??Razz

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Post by Zeiin on March 4th 2012, 6:35 am

Ankit Reborn wrote:Yup Kakashi can beat likes of Deidara and even Kisame , Pein and Itachi will be out of his league though .

Only reason why Shikimaru beat Hidan was because Hidan ran blindly into his trap. Don't underistimate Shikimaru, he can easily out smart Kakashi. Don't forget that Kakashi can't fully control his mangekyou sharingan. He probably would of lost the battle between him and Dedara. His mangekyou sharingan takes over half of his chakra and struggled to kill 1 Pein. He already used it twice against Dedara so if Naruto didn't attack then he would of been gone. Sasuke struggled against Dedara so how would you think it will end up with Dedara vsing Kakashi. You guys are over estimating him. With Kakashi verse Kisame he would still lose since none of his fire style will work under water also he wouldn't have the time to use his sharigan against a tail less beast. He also struggled to destroy Kakuzu's hearts and he will more likely miss then get him with his mangekyou sharingan as he missed twice with Dedara.
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Post by Hiei on March 4th 2012, 6:57 am

No Deidara is a moron tbh and Kakashi is as smart as Shikamaru and definitely smarter than Sasuke . So , Kakashi will take Deidara out . The same applied for Hidan he was a moron as well .

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Post by Phoenix on March 4th 2012, 6:59 am

He's a moron when he figured out a definitive way to counter the sharingan that no other shinobi has implemented (as far as we know)? He came up with the technique to simply keep one eye closed. He trained that eye to be unaffected by genjutsu. He's not Shikamaru level genius, but he's still smart enough to handle Kashi.
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Post by Hiei on March 4th 2012, 7:02 am

Deidara is dead as well so , we will never know . Razz

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Post by Phoenix on March 4th 2012, 7:12 am

What's your argument being based on them being dead..? The First Hokage is dead so you're trying to say Kakashi can beat him too?
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