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Post by [S]ky on January 17th 2012, 11:50 pm

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thoughts on new Jax?
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Post by Eredale on January 18th 2012, 12:25 am

New Jax is beast. Dodges clutch DPS from everyone like a boss, 2/3 of his attacks deal double damage due to ult and new low CD on Empower.

I'd say the rework is a major success, since I see Jaxes perform much better now.
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Re: League Of Legends General

Post by C4Blizzard on January 18th 2012, 12:28 am

Dat 4% crit is still broken. Critting like every 4-5 attacks is really broken with that amount.
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Post by Riki X on January 18th 2012, 4:03 am

New ult active is fucking broken, give scaling AD and AP holy shit

but they got rid of his old passive, and new dodge is overall worse (only 1.5 seconds 100% dodge rather than 100% of the time 35% dodge (plus runes and Tabi)), I'd say he's overall stronger but I still don't like it




btw, anyone gonna watch the IEM Kiev tournament?
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Post by Eredale on January 18th 2012, 1:13 pm

It's in my country, maybe I'll tune in for a peek

Also ffs, stop complaining about the crit mastery, most crit-reliant people take crit runes anyway, so that's definitely not 4%, I can guarantee you that as a Critplank player

4% is like what... 1/25 chance? So a crit every twenty-five attacks approx, and there's no solid proof that it will pop when you hit a champion, not a minion you lasthit

Seriously, just because it's written in big red letters over your head doesn't make it so dreadful. I believe that if there wasn't a text display, people would rarely even notice it.
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Re: League Of Legends General

Post by [S]ky on January 18th 2012, 3:48 pm

2 bars and 1 bar is a huge difference at early levels
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Post by Eredale on January 18th 2012, 4:15 pm

The only person who can hit you with a full bar with an attack at level one is someone with full flat AD runes. And if someone hits you for two bars, it's obviously Tryn or GP with their innate huge base AD and AD bonuses.
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Post by [S]ky on January 18th 2012, 9:07 pm

@Eredale wrote:The only person who can hit you with a full bar with an attack at level one is someone with full flat AD runes. And if someone hits you for two bars, it's obviously Tryn or GP with their innate huge base AD and AD bonuses.

so yesterday's game, C4 playing Vayne

he gets off some lucky crits and thats about 200 (+tumble) damage (so my statement wasnt quite right..)
enemy vayne having ~400 hp, four bars
he got her down to ~200hp insta, didnt mention tumble...soo..my fault
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Post by Eredale on January 18th 2012, 9:43 pm

Well hey, he got a crit on Tumble, that's pretty nice

But honestly, why complain? Would you rather it be 4% dodge and have those guys escape safely for absolutely no reason 4% of the time? Come on, we're not playing dice here

Think of it this way: 1/25 chance means that after they autoattack you 100 times, they would deal damage equal to 104 autoattacks. Besides, if you can actually autoattack them for those crits, it won't be a problem for you to autoattack again, right? So a crit is essentially ~5 seconds of running around and an autoattack.

I don't know why people complain, really.
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Post by C4Blizzard on January 18th 2012, 9:57 pm

@Ere. The enemy Vayne had ~450 hp at level one (boots +tripot), I was able to crit for almost 200 damage without Tumble. I was able to crit like 2 times over 5 seconds which imo is broken early. That early game was full of crits. Dodge was not completely uncounterable even if it was annoying. For me stacking crit and lifesteal are still broken.


I have +20 AD at level one without any items or spells. Just from runes + mastery. (No, I don't have full AD rune page, also got 18 mr without mastery which is godly early game).

Also Eredale. Crit chance in LoL isn't counted like that. The 25th hit isnt a sure crit. Every time you attack its like a dice roll. If you get the right number you crit, if you don't....you don't. But Riots system is broken for some reason. I mean....criting 3 times in a row on enemy Udyr while playing Olaf at lvl 4, ridiculous.
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Post by Eredale on January 18th 2012, 11:05 pm

It's not about being broken, sigh... It's real random distribution

Are you a zealot of normal distribution theory? If there is a 1 in a million chance to hit, then you can ONLY make 1 hit per million attempts?

Then what about the chance that there would be 2 hits, 5 hits, 999999 hits in that million attempts? Sure, the chance is low, but it is there

It's only because you notice things like "Oh hey wow, that guy crit me two times in a row, freaking OP Riot nerf QQ adjfsdjfhkadsj" which stand out; now think about this, how often do you notice them NOT crit you for a long period of time? You probably don't even bother thinking about things when they don't happen

If there is a bomb being dropped in your neighborhood each few days, you would probably be on edge, and do whatever you can to stop it; but tell me, how often do you think about bombs dropping in your neighborhood? Oh, 0 times a day? Well that's too bad, because you should think

It's all about being selectively conscious - people have to understand that the periods of increased crits are equal to periods of no crits at all. Over 45 minutes, it all evens out, really.
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Post by C4Blizzard on January 18th 2012, 11:19 pm

No, I critted him. I didn't like it.
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Post by Eredale on January 18th 2012, 11:34 pm

And? Tell me, how much do you think stuff like "Hmm, I'm not critting at all, wtf"?
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Re: League Of Legends General

Post by [S]ky on January 18th 2012, 11:49 pm

idk man, Riot said they made the crit-rng more realistic, so that would mean a crit every 25 auto attacks would be more appropriate
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Re: League Of Legends General

Post by [S]ky on January 21st 2012, 10:43 pm

bump
anyone saw the m5 play? they incredibly destroyed SK
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Re: League Of Legends General

Post by Eredale on January 21st 2012, 10:56 pm

Not only them, they're wrecking everything in sight

But TSM seems to have caught onto their stragtegy, and is using it against Dignitas

I am very excited for tomorrow's finals, TSM vs. M5, cheering for M5
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Post by [S]ky on January 21st 2012, 10:59 pm

@Eredale wrote:Not only them, they're wrecking everything in sight

But TSM seems to have caught onto their stragtegy, and is using it against Dignitas

I am very excited for tomorrow's finals, TSM vs. M5, cheering for M5

apparently I am,too
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Post by Thel_JF on January 21st 2012, 11:04 pm

tsm copycat ^^
this is going to be awesome
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Post by [S]ky on January 22nd 2012, 5:26 pm

oh man, m5 dominating
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Re: League Of Legends General

Post by Thel_JF on January 22nd 2012, 6:06 pm

that morde pick most retarded shit ever
i dont think m5 can win another game
my prediction 2 1 for tsm
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Post by [S]ky on January 22nd 2012, 6:10 pm

@Thel_JF wrote:that morde pick most retarded shit ever
i dont think m5 can win another game
my prediction 2 1 for tsm

1:1 now, we will see if m5 decides to ban Sona
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Post by Ksarme on January 22nd 2012, 6:49 pm

Excellent play from M5. Champion title well-deserved.
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Post by [S]ky on January 22nd 2012, 6:52 pm

Axer wrote:Excellent play from M5. Champion title well-deserved.

this, but tsm wasnt quite bad, too
but Karthus wasnt stronk enough
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Re: League Of Legends General

Post by Eredale on January 22nd 2012, 6:55 pm

Mordekaiser

AD Kennen

Shyvana

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Proves how thick-headed the NA players were.
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Post by .::Nakato::. on January 22nd 2012, 6:56 pm

M5 is my new favorite team :33
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